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		<title>By: Pammy</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpyyounglady.com/?p=367&#038;cpage=1#comment-3628</link>
		<dc:creator>Pammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand this situation all too well. It was pretty close to my mother for several years after my parents&#039; divorce. I don&#039;t like the holidays anymore. You&#039;re doing the best you can and sometimes the best you can do is just making it to the next day. You are strong.

&lt;strong&gt;Thanks Pammy :) Grumpy&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand this situation all too well. It was pretty close to my mother for several years after my parents&#8217; divorce. I don&#8217;t like the holidays anymore. You&#8217;re doing the best you can and sometimes the best you can do is just making it to the next day. You are strong.</p>
<p><strong>Thanks Pammy <img src='http://www.grumpyyounglady.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Grumpy</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Stephie @ Narrative Self</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephie @ Narrative Self</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many reasons not to turn up: you feel a burden; you feel that they only asked because they felt a duty, that they don&#039;t really want you there; you feel they won&#039;t even notice if you&#039;re not.  Spending money is a release, a short-term one, but for a few minutes, even a few seconds a relief; then comes the emptiness and the guilt in large overwhelming doses and the despair hits you again, your uselessness, your worthlessness.  You want to &quot;fix problems&quot;, but ultimately what&#039;s the point, they&#039;ll only be replaced with others, and honestly you just don&#039;t know how, because you can&#039;t see how you got there in the first place. Attention is needed, if that attention can&#039;t be got immediately you might lose control and let go of everything...

Of course it&#039;s hard to be the ones living with someone with depression and mental illness, but no-one would ever believe that living with cancer could be worse for the people around them than the person with the disease.  And depression kills, just like cancer.  The person with depression may seem thoughtless, helpless and selfish, but they appreciate what you&#039;re going through and I&#039;m sure appreciate you being there, even though it may not feel like.  Thank you for being there; I know how much I appreciate my friends when I&#039;m feeling suicidal, even if I&#039;m too ill to articulate it.

&lt;strong&gt;Wow Stephie....if I didn&#039;t know any better I would think that my mum finally got on to the intermanet ;) You are so spot on with everything you have said, and it makes me feel rather guilty - cos I do understand what she is going through - to a small degree, in a way a person who has never had clinical depression can understand.  But after 20 years and not getting the help she really needs - it is very frustrating. :( Grumpy&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many reasons not to turn up: you feel a burden; you feel that they only asked because they felt a duty, that they don&#8217;t really want you there; you feel they won&#8217;t even notice if you&#8217;re not.  Spending money is a release, a short-term one, but for a few minutes, even a few seconds a relief; then comes the emptiness and the guilt in large overwhelming doses and the despair hits you again, your uselessness, your worthlessness.  You want to &#8220;fix problems&#8221;, but ultimately what&#8217;s the point, they&#8217;ll only be replaced with others, and honestly you just don&#8217;t know how, because you can&#8217;t see how you got there in the first place. Attention is needed, if that attention can&#8217;t be got immediately you might lose control and let go of everything&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course it&#8217;s hard to be the ones living with someone with depression and mental illness, but no-one would ever believe that living with cancer could be worse for the people around them than the person with the disease.  And depression kills, just like cancer.  The person with depression may seem thoughtless, helpless and selfish, but they appreciate what you&#8217;re going through and I&#8217;m sure appreciate you being there, even though it may not feel like.  Thank you for being there; I know how much I appreciate my friends when I&#8217;m feeling suicidal, even if I&#8217;m too ill to articulate it.</p>
<p><strong>Wow Stephie&#8230;.if I didn&#8217;t know any better I would think that my mum finally got on to the intermanet <img src='http://www.grumpyyounglady.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  You are so spot on with everything you have said, and it makes me feel rather guilty &#8211; cos I do understand what she is going through &#8211; to a small degree, in a way a person who has never had clinical depression can understand.  But after 20 years and not getting the help she really needs &#8211; it is very frustrating. <img src='http://www.grumpyyounglady.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Grumpy</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention Being Held Hostage « Grumpy Young Lady -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GYL</title>
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		<dc:creator>GYL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said it EXACTLY Mr H.....you aren&#039;t the one with the illness yet the stuff they can put you through is pretty tough. Grumpy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said it EXACTLY Mr H&#8230;..you aren&#8217;t the one with the illness yet the stuff they can put you through is pretty tough. Grumpy</p>
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		<title>By: Romani Hanna</title>
		<link>http://www.grumpyyounglady.com/?p=367&#038;cpage=1#comment-3556</link>
		<dc:creator>Romani Hanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bee, I read this post at almost 3am local time with no energy left in my body but somehow, given my exhausted state of mind, this was a totally electrifying &amp; captivating read. You are at your (writing) best here. This was something I could relate to as I was the hostage with my ex-fiancé who possessed similar traits, putting me through 4 years of torture with her. It&#039;s mind-boggling feeling like the victim when you know the real victim is the one on the other side.

Mr H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bee, I read this post at almost 3am local time with no energy left in my body but somehow, given my exhausted state of mind, this was a totally electrifying &amp; captivating read. You are at your (writing) best here. This was something I could relate to as I was the hostage with my ex-fiancé who possessed similar traits, putting me through 4 years of torture with her. It&#8217;s mind-boggling feeling like the victim when you know the real victim is the one on the other side.</p>
<p>Mr H</p>
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		<title>By: DM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so understand this from both sides (now).  I have the mother who is bi-polar and passed on her lovely craziness to me but the father who was an alcoholic.  So I try not to drink and hopefully remember my pills and thank God daily for my friends and Effexor.  I have never read a better description of what it&#039;s like to be on the receiving end of the craziness.

&lt;strong&gt;Lol - I was telling a friend that it is kinda sad that I have to write about something so bad for my best writing to come out. I gotta practise my skills ;) I am glad that you seem to be doing so well and have everything in hand. Grumpy&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so understand this from both sides (now).  I have the mother who is bi-polar and passed on her lovely craziness to me but the father who was an alcoholic.  So I try not to drink and hopefully remember my pills and thank God daily for my friends and Effexor.  I have never read a better description of what it&#8217;s like to be on the receiving end of the craziness.</p>
<p><strong>Lol &#8211; I was telling a friend that it is kinda sad that I have to write about something so bad for my best writing to come out. I gotta practise my skills <img src='http://www.grumpyyounglady.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I am glad that you seem to be doing so well and have everything in hand. Grumpy</strong></p>
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		<title>By: birdpress</title>
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		<dc:creator>birdpress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a tough thing to deal with.  I&#039;m sorry it&#039;s like that.  Beautifully written post, painfully honest too.  Christmas does bring out extra emotions for all of us, although this is obviously more than just seasonal for her.  :(

&lt;strong&gt;Thanks, BP. Grumpy&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a tough thing to deal with.  I&#8217;m sorry it&#8217;s like that.  Beautifully written post, painfully honest too.  Christmas does bring out extra emotions for all of us, although this is obviously more than just seasonal for her.  <img src='http://www.grumpyyounglady.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Thanks, BP. Grumpy</strong></p>
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		<title>By: licketysplit</title>
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		<dc:creator>licketysplit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is one of the worst things about the holidays.  It&#039;s a &quot;psychiatric stress test&quot;.  It&#039;s very important to take care of your emotional well-being too.  I don&#039;t know you but I would caution you to be careful as there is a real danger that her emotions and actions impinge and stress your person.

This is beautifully written and tear-provoking.  I would tell you to do your best.  That&#039;s all you can do.

&lt;strong&gt;Fortunately (though it seems heartless) there is no real danger of any impingement. I feel a bit sad, annoyed, disappointed and frustrated but nothing that I can&#039;t deal with easily. Grumpy&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is one of the worst things about the holidays.  It&#8217;s a &#8220;psychiatric stress test&#8221;.  It&#8217;s very important to take care of your emotional well-being too.  I don&#8217;t know you but I would caution you to be careful as there is a real danger that her emotions and actions impinge and stress your person.</p>
<p>This is beautifully written and tear-provoking.  I would tell you to do your best.  That&#8217;s all you can do.</p>
<p><strong>Fortunately (though it seems heartless) there is no real danger of any impingement. I feel a bit sad, annoyed, disappointed and frustrated but nothing that I can&#8217;t deal with easily. Grumpy</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Ginny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having always existed on the other side of this equation (i.e. I&#039;m the one putting people through hell) this was hard to read.  I&#039;d like to say that I haven&#039;t put people through quite as bad, but maybe I&#039;ve just put them through different hells, some worse, some not as bad.

Regardless of my own experience, this was so beautifully written, probably the best thing I&#039;ve ever read of yours.  Really, really good.

&lt;strong&gt;Aw, thanks Ginny - I appreciate you saying that. I think that the thing with this person is that it is their personality/mindset/upbringing together with the depression that is the difficult thing to deal with. The depression by itself wouldn&#039;t be so &#039;bad&#039;. I dunno - I feel I tread a very fine line, never having suffered it myself. Grumpy&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having always existed on the other side of this equation (i.e. I&#8217;m the one putting people through hell) this was hard to read.  I&#8217;d like to say that I haven&#8217;t put people through quite as bad, but maybe I&#8217;ve just put them through different hells, some worse, some not as bad.</p>
<p>Regardless of my own experience, this was so beautifully written, probably the best thing I&#8217;ve ever read of yours.  Really, really good.</p>
<p><strong>Aw, thanks Ginny &#8211; I appreciate you saying that. I think that the thing with this person is that it is their personality/mindset/upbringing together with the depression that is the difficult thing to deal with. The depression by itself wouldn&#8217;t be so &#8216;bad&#8217;. I dunno &#8211; I feel I tread a very fine line, never having suffered it myself. Grumpy</strong></p>
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		<title>By: MoFoKa</title>
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		<dc:creator>MoFoKa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh luv...  What a hard thing you are going through.  I think we have all been touched by such a thing, either a friend, family or self.  It&#039;s a pity that such a well written blog is actually a heart break for you.  Lots of Christmas love to you xxx

&lt;strong&gt;I dunno....sounds weird but it isn&#039;t that hard anymore, when it is just a fact of life. Been going on for 20 years now. You just deal with it. And sometimes I just wanna have a whinge ;) Christmas love back atchya xo. Grumpy&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh luv&#8230;  What a hard thing you are going through.  I think we have all been touched by such a thing, either a friend, family or self.  It&#8217;s a pity that such a well written blog is actually a heart break for you.  Lots of Christmas love to you xxx</p>
<p><strong>I dunno&#8230;.sounds weird but it isn&#8217;t that hard anymore, when it is just a fact of life. Been going on for 20 years now. You just deal with it. And sometimes I just wanna have a whinge <img src='http://www.grumpyyounglady.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Christmas love back atchya xo. Grumpy</strong></p>
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